{"id":216,"date":"2012-11-13T17:42:22","date_gmt":"2012-11-13T17:42:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?p=216"},"modified":"2013-06-09T13:35:32","modified_gmt":"2013-06-09T13:35:32","slug":"health-test-alice-zizi-part-4-flu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/health-test-alice-zizi-part-4-flu\/","title":{"rendered":"The Health Test: Alice and Zizi \u2013 Part 5 The Flu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/flu.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-232 alignleft\" title=\"flu\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/flu-300x225.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/flu-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/flu.jpg 580w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><a title=\"The Health Test: Alice and Zizi\" href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?p=165\">In part 1 we met Alice and Zizi<\/a>, two women, between 30 and 40 years old, \u00a0both normal and healthy. The question: Who is healthier, Alice &#8211; or Zizi.\u00a0<a title=\"Alice and Zizi - the common cold\" href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?p=172\">In part 2, we learned that: \u00a0Zizi &#8211; has one to three colds, every couple of years, typically lasting 3 days or less.\u00a0Alice has 3 to 5 colds every year, typically lasting 7 days.<\/a>\u00a0But in <a title=\"Alice and Zizi - the immune system\" href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?p=112\">part 3, we learned that we still don&#8217;t know who is healthier<\/a>. Is Alice healthier, or Zizi?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Even when <a href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?p=236\">Zizi Gets a Cold, or Not<\/a>\u00a0(part 4), we don&#8217;t really understand the effects from a healthiness perspective. In many cases, even after the fact, we&#8217;re not sure if it was a sinus infection, caused by a bacteria or a virus, or a cold, or both, or perhaps a very mild flu. We head over to the grocery store, or the pharmacy and pick up something for the symptoms. \u00a0And maybe that&#8217;s the best we can do?<\/p>\n<p><strong>What about the flu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Alice (or is it Zizi?) gets the flu only once every 3 or 4 years. Zizi (or is it Alice?) on the other hand, gets the flu every 3 or 4 years. \u00a0In this respect, Alice and Zizi are both &#8216;normal&#8217;. \u00a0Alice takes the flu vaccine every year, and credits the vaccine with helping to ensure she gets the flu less often. \u00a0Zizi on the other hand, never takes the flu vaccine &#8211; believing it has low effectiveness. Zizi trusts her overall healthiness to protect her from the flu.<\/p>\n<p>Who is healthier?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Does the flu vaccine make Alice healthier?<\/strong> Or<\/p>\n<p><strong>does avoiding the flu vaccine make Zizi healthier?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This might lead us back to the assumption that healthiness is the opposite of illness (it is not) and that whoever is ill less often is healthier. \u00a0However, that assumption proved useless for the common cold &#8211; and it won&#8217;t help us here either.<\/p>\n<p>The simple truth is:\u00a0<strong><em>We don&#8217;t know who is healthier. We don&#8217;t know which actions are healthier. \u00a0And we don&#8217;t know if other actions are the most healthy.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We don&#8217;t know if taking a\u00a0<strong>flu vaccine one time<\/strong> makes you more, or less healthy. \u00a0We don&#8217;t know if taking a\u00a0<strong>flu vaccine every year<\/strong> makes you more, or less healthy. And we don&#8217;t know if <strong>avoiding a vaccine<\/strong> makes you more or less healthy.<\/p>\n<p>Were not even sure if taking a specific flu vaccine makes you more, or less sick. Each flu vaccine is re-designed, every year. \u00a0The flu virus evolves every year. Because the flu is a seasonal illness, flu vaccines cannot be subjected to the rigorous testing we expect for other medicines. The tests take longer than the season. Each flu vaccine is &#8216;an experimental product&#8217;. \u00a0Each vaccination is like a clinical study, perhaps a poorly defined and sloppily monitored clinical study. This year&#8217;s vaccine results will not be available until a year after Alice and Zizi make their decision.<\/p>\n<p>What is the cost of flu vaccination? A quick back of the envelope calculation puts \u00a0the USA medical bill in the range of 5 billion dollars per year.\u00a0This bring up an important, but ignored question. \u00a0What is the cost benefit? How effective is the flu vaccine, on average, and does the effectiveness justify the cost?<\/p>\n<p>There lies a big problem. Effectiveness of the flu vaccine is seldom measured, and \u00a0when it has been measured &#8211; the results are not good. \u00a0The most &#8216;targeted group&#8217; for flu vaccination \u00a0is those over 65 years of age. \u00a0The flu vaccines are, according to many studies, almost useless in people over the age of 65. The reason is not clear. \u00a0Maybe people over 65 have a weaker immune system and thus are less likely to generate a resistance from the vaccine.\u00a0In that age group &#8211; there is a cost, but we&#8217;re not sure if there is any benefit. No wonder medical costs are rising.<\/p>\n<p>There are many ways to measure the effectiveness of the flu vaccine &#8211; and that leads to more confusion. \u00a0Should we measure the &#8216;flu resistance created&#8217;? \u00a0Or should we measure the &#8216;flu prevented&#8217;. Or should we measure the incidence of flu &#8211; which might include flu strains not intended to be prevented by the vaccine? \u00a0Or perhaps we should attempt to measure &#8216;deaths prevented&#8217;. \u00a0Because the flu does not (in most cases) kill anyone, we don&#8217;t even know if a mild flu makes us healthier (after it passes). Measuring the effectiveness of a flu vaccine is very, very complex.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cdc.gov\/flu\/about\/qa\/vaccineeffect.htm\">According to the CDC (US Center for Disease Control), the influenza vaccine is 60 percent effective for all age groups combined.<\/a>\u00a0 Whatever that means, it translates to 40 percent &#8216;not effective&#8217;. \u00a0Note: The Canadian government web page says the flu vaccine is 80 percent effective (without any clarifying statements). \u00a0Simple error? Intentional misrepresentation?\u00a0Propaganda?<\/p>\n<p>Influenza results in many deaths every year &#8211; in people of poor health. The CDC considers the vaccine worthwhile. They do also say &#8220;<em>It\u2019s important to note, however, that how well flu vaccines work will continue to vary each year<\/em>&#8221; &#8211; eg. last years statistics might not be valid this year. \u00a0Every year is an\u00a0experiment.<\/p>\n<p>Back to Alice and Zizi. \u00a0We learned something interesting about the common cold in part 3. \u00a0The symptoms of the common cold are not caused by the virus &#8211; they are caused by the reaction of your immune system to the virus.<\/p>\n<p>What about the flu? It is likely that the symptoms of influenza are not directly caused by the virus and its action, but rather by the body&#8217;s reaction to the virus?<\/p>\n<p>Is it more complicated? How many different types of symptoms are present when you have the flu?<\/p>\n<p>1. Symptoms caused by the flu virus.<br \/>\n2. Symptoms that are the result of your immune system fighting the virus.<br \/>\n3. Symptoms of healing that might result when the body is healing or recovering from 1 and 2?\u00a0Are there\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/personalhealthfreedom.blogspot.ca\/2012\/05\/what-are-symptoms-of-healthiness.html\">symptoms of healthiness as related to influenza?<\/a><br \/>\n4. Other symptoms?<br \/>\n&#8230;.. it&#8217;s complicated&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The CDC, and medical science, attempts to measure each vaccines effectiveness by how much illness is present. They assume that if fewer people are ill from the flu, less people will die from complications. \u00a0But it&#8217;s possible that the opposite is true. They don&#8217;t attempt to measure health benefits nor health deficits. To study healthicine, we need to study and measure healthiness. \u00a0We need to study the <strong>effects of influenza on healthiness<\/strong>, and we need to measure the <strong>effects of the vaccination on healthiness,\u00a0<\/strong>to guide intelligent, informed decisions.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s the old saw &#8220;<strong>What doesn&#8217;t kill me &#8211; makes me stronger<\/strong>.&#8221; \u00a0If Alice and Zizi are both young and healthy &#8211; does the influenza make them stronger? \u00a0Do people who don&#8217;t suffer influenza suffer a lack of &#8216;sickness exercise&#8217;, leaving them less healthy?<\/p>\n<p>Is the flu, like the cold, a virus that only attacks &#8216;unhealthy cells&#8217;? \u00a0There are often &#8216;more than one&#8217; influenza viruses in circulation at one time. Does a &#8216;minor case of the flu&#8217; protect us from a more severe case of the flu &#8211; by killing off many of the cells that would be infected by a more serious infection, thus inhibiting the severe flu virus? \u00a0Does the flu vaccine, working 60 percent of the time, allow our concentration of &#8216;unhealthy cells&#8217; to build up, resulting in a more severe case when we do finally get the flu? \u00a0I don&#8217;t believe this has been studied.<\/p>\n<p>Scientific studies tend to be short term, measuring, at best, the effects of a flu vaccine on a single season of influenza. No one has attempted to measure the effect of a flu vaccination on the &#8216;next season&#8217; of influenza. \u00a0It is entirely possible that people who are protected in one season become more\u00a0susceptible\u00a0to a more serious illness in the next year. \u00a0But this is more difficult to measure. \u00a0And there is no &#8216;market&#8217; support for such a measurement.<\/p>\n<p>There is also little discussion or analysis of how a vaccine actually works. \u00a0People who are vaccinated are still exposed to flu viruses. \u00a0Flu viruses still infects them, although we believe that, in about 60 percent of cases, the infection is minor, less likely to cause flu symptoms. It is not clear, for example, whether being vaccinated actually prevents passing the virus to others. We think so&#8230; \u00a0But we&#8217;re not sure. \u00a0We don&#8217;t know, for example, if the 40 percent &#8211; where the flu vaccine fails &#8211; are more, or less likely to pass on the virus as a result of the vaccination. We&#8217;re also not sure if being vaccinated for a single flu virus makes us more\u00a0susceptible\u00a0to other variations of the flu &#8211; and more likely to pass those variations on than someone who was not vaccinated. This is extremely complicated. We study one small part of the picture at a time, hoping to understand the whole picture someday.<\/p>\n<p>We know that people seldom die from the flu. Most deaths are the result of complications arising from the flu &#8211; pneumonia being the most common. \u00a0The flu is also capable of \u00a0triggering heart attacks. Some flu epidemics cause a severe immune system reaction &#8211; where it is believed the people with the &#8216;healthiest&#8217; immune systems are most likely to die.<\/p>\n<p>There are many factors that influence whether or not we get the flu. \u00a0Many factors influence whether we suffer minor, or severe symptoms. Many factors determine whether or not we suffer complications.<\/p>\n<p>The current focus on the flu, influenza complications, and flu vaccines directs our attention away from factors that are related to healthiness. \u00a0Illness tends to be well studied. \u00a0Healthiness tends to be ignored.<\/p>\n<p>Someday we will study the science of healthiness and through that study, learn more about illness. We cannot know the whole truth about illness, not about medicines, not about vaccinations &#8211; until we study healthiness\u00a0scientifically. We need to study <a title=\"Healthicine\" href=\"http:\/\/healthicine.org\/wordpress\/?page_id=16\"><strong>healthicine<\/strong>, the arts and sciences of health and healthiness.\u00a0<\/a>\u00a0When we learn more about healthiness, we will be able to make better decisions about illness as well.<\/p>\n<p>Until then, Alice and Zizi will continue to be confused, as we are, about who is healthier, about what actions are most effective in avoiding illness and what actions\u00a0they should take to improve their healthiness.<\/p>\n<p>to your health, tracy<\/p>\n<a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-share synved-social-size-48 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Share on Facebook\" 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